Age of Ash

[diwata]

Agreed.
I think that instead of highlighting drop rate probability as "always", "often", "seldom" and "very seldom", the actual percentage (or a sliding scale percentage) should be shown so that we know where we stand.

I like the %. At least we have a number. Who knows what 'very seldom' even mean?

 

[Wired Parrott]

There is no doubt the classification of drops (always/often/seldom/very seldom) is incorrect for the very seldom class.
Every collection that has very seldom listed has that one item, common in all players game, that is far more than very seldom.
Just another one of the issues I have with their very ambiguous descriptions. Just tell us and then I am fine with it, may not
like it but will at least know the truth.

 

[ryder]

I like the %. At least we have a number. Who knows what 'very seldom' even mean?

Precisely.

If I play roulette and I bet on the ball to land on the green segment, then I know that the chance of this is very seldom, but at least I know that the percentage is nearly 3% (1/37 or 1.38), but even that is higher percentage than the alleged drop rate for CW collection.

What I have seen with so far with "very seldom" drops (either quest or non-quest) is that the percentage ranges from 1%?? (CW collection) upto 33%.

 

[Kesh]

We all asked for new events/new rewards. Let's be realistic and say that it's not supposed for event to be easy and that everyone can complete it. I found that event very good (and platform I'm playing on was the one who get it last). All other platforms had 1 week advantage. Other problem was game bug that cut the timeline for event completion for another week (my event started yesterday - I complete the event already but was returned to beginning).
Also there is 6 and some days left to complete the event and everyone is complaining about drop rates (we all learned that drop rate is better with each update on the event). Why rushing? During that time we got extra gift of 10 greenies, we had enough time to plan how to play the event. I'm reading a lot of comment and i see a lot of things which were not done ok (at least my humble opinion), If you know you need some bonuses - play in advance (event was announced almost a month ago) - we all have a chance to gather few spyglass, dices and even sky captain. Like in real life to complete the job (task/event or anything similar) good preparation is the base for everything. After that it goes faster. Also why players with lower fuel reserve burn that on flights which require more fuel and flights last longer time - I found that as waste of time and resources (only my opinion). Even if my game is repaired yesterday i'll try to complete the event (i have some bonuses stashed - collecting them for 1 year - yes it take a lot of time but now i have a head start. It took me 1 hour yesterday to complete 1st of 3 task on the event - few bonuses and 4 greenies for golden dice (which is by my opinion best cost/benefit item in the game).
in next hour i got 1 institute - so while bonus was still active i gathered few jackhammers (I didn't fly for second institute as dice bonus can provide you with more then you can spend). Biggest problem for me is current drop rate from volcano (lack of time - today I was driving whole day so didn't even open the game), but from now i have 6 hours till sleep and during weekend - I think i'll manage to gather enough for 3 collection. Then day or two before end I'll give it a shot for cold war collection - put as much bonuses I can and try to get CW collection 3x.
It's all about planning and strategy - if not done will wait for next year.
Reward building is the one that drops item every 24h - it's individual decision if it is valuable to burn some resources for that building or is it maybe better to go for adventure maps (result is the same). I know that many people neglect adventure buildings - my opinion is that they are one of best buildings in the game - that's why it is hard to obtain them.
I wish all of you good luck in completion of the event.
Apology for long post!

 

[ryder]

We all asked for new events/new rewards. Let's be realistic and say that it's not supposed for event to be easy and that everyone can complete it. I found that event very good (and platform I'm playing on was the one who get it last). All other platforms had 1 week advantage. Other problem was game bug that cut the timeline for event completion for another week (my event started yesterday - I complete the event already but was returned to beginning).
Also there is 6 and some days left to complete the event and everyone is complaining about drop rates (we all learned that drop rate is better with each update on the event). Why rushing? During that time we got extra gift of 10 greenies, we had enough time to plan how to play the event. I'm reading a lot of comment and i see a lot of things which were not done ok (at least my humble opinion), If you know you need some bonuses - play in advance (event was announced almost a month ago) - we all have a chance to gather few spyglass, dices and even sky captain. Like in real life to complete the job (task/event or anything similar) good preparation is the base for everything. After that it goes faster. Also why players with lower fuel reserve burn that on flights which require more fuel and flights last longer time - I found that as waste of time and resources (only my opinion). Even if my game is repaired yesterday i'll try to complete the event (i have some bonuses stashed - collecting them for 1 year - yes it take a lot of time but now i have a head start. It took me 1 hour yesterday to complete 1st of 3 task on the event - few bonuses and 4 greenies for golden dice (which is by my opinion best cost/benefit item in the game).
in next hour i got 1 institute - so while bonus was still active i gathered few jackhammers (I didn't fly for second institute as dice bonus can provide you with more then you can spend). Biggest problem for me is current drop rate from volcano (lack of time - today I was driving whole day so didn't even open the game), but from now i have 6 hours till sleep and during weekend - I think i'll manage to gather enough for 3 collection. Then day or two before end I'll give it a shot for cold war collection - put as much bonuses I can and try to get CW collection 3x.
It's all about planning and strategy - if not done will wait for next year.
Reward building is the one that drops item every 24h - it's individual decision if it is valuable to burn some resources for that building or is it maybe better to go for adventure maps (result is the same). I know that many people neglect adventure buildings - my opinion is that they are one of best buildings in the game - that's why it is hard to obtain them.
I wish all of you good luck in completion of the event.
Apology for long post!

I, like you, have so far, thoroughly enjoyed the event and I enjoy the challenge, but GI originally indicated that this event is available to any player at level 8+. Therefore, when I see this, then I interpret this as anybody with level 8+ can complete the event.

What I seem to be seeing is that anybody with a shed load of stashed resources/bonuses can complete the event?

 

[Kesh]

I, like you, have so far, thoroughly enjoyed the event and I enjoy the challenge, but GI originally indicated that this event is available to any player at level 8+. Therefore, when I see this, then I interpret this as anybody with level 8+ can complete the event.

What I seem to be seeing is that anybody with a shed load of stashed resources/bonuses can complete the event?

From my personal experience player level 8 cannot complete any event (he can play it but not complete it without greenies). This one requires flight academy (available on level 10) - so this one no for sure.

 

[Dempsi72]

I have still 6 days but no chance to make it

 

[Free2Play]

There is no doubt the classification of drops (always/often/seldom/very seldom) is incorrect for the very seldom class.
Every collection that has very seldom listed has that one item, common in all players game, that is far more than very seldom.

No, it's not. Otherwise everyone will report the same item as 'missing'. And we don't make a random item drop less often just for you on individual basis as well.

I've told that before. Every time you successfully complete a collection on a daily basis (i.e. a regular one with no time constraints), you don't notice it. But you always notice when there's one item that's escaping you for some time.

Say, you've completed 50 collections of something and the rest of items you have looks like this: 13-0-15-9-10 Surely, we've messed up with second item, right? But you don't take into account the 50 collections you've completed already, so the real numbers are 63-50-65-59-60.

Obviously, "very seldom" definition falls within a certain range, and Age of Ash is insanely difficult. That's some change from previous special events that last two weeks, but are completed by our old time and most dedicated players (that's you and most others on the forum) in two days.

Future special events might be easy again, you never know!

 

[Wabbitgirl]

Obviously, "very seldom" definition falls within a certain range, and Age of Ash is insanely difficult. That's some change from previous special events that last two weeks, but are completed by our old time and most dedicated players (that's you and most others on the forum) in two days.

Future special events might be easy again, you never know!

Okay, I understand your logic with this being insanely difficult but.....you only made it harder for the "old, dedicated players" who have so many resources with unlimited fuel, passengers and greenies, they can "buy" their way into completing this event. Either by using unlimited spy glasses or purchasing the bonus packs with 5 random items inside.

How about the rest of us? Maybe insanely difficult for 5% of your players but absolutely impossible for the other 95%. Just my humble opinion!

I am not giving up, still 5 days to go and a few more spy glasses to use....wish me luck and good luck to everyone else still plugging away at it!

 

[diwata]

And sometimes, even though we are old, dedicated players and even though we have a lot of bonuses and whatnot, we also try not to use them unless we really have to. To me, it would depend if it would be worth it. And sometimes, it's just the mood. Sometimes, I'm like.... nah....

 

[Akims]

I am not giving up either @Wabbitgirl ! Plugging away, just need about 6 items. Keep the faith and keep working. Oh and I am totally not referring to 10 cold war collections for a Jumbo Ranger!

 

[Wired Parrott]

Just to be clear I understand probabilities and have no need for a refresher. I will state that drop rates are
manipulated as they obviously were with the gates of hell collection. I won't argue the point as it is quite clear
and irrelevant in my view.

As far as events being easy not sure where I actually said anything even close to that. Some on the forums have argued
that point but not I. I actually like the event and enjoy the challenge. I have never been one of the players who tries to finish
events in a day or two. However, when I spend the vast majority of the time sending flights to the same destinations and get
6 drops for hundreds of flights it gets a bit absurd. I feel that if you spend that amount of time and number of flights you should
have a reasonable expectation that you will complete the event. I won't even go into the issue of those that used mass amount of
bonuses that evidently do not work on the cold war collection.

I am always glad to see a dev take the time to engage the community and thank you for taking the time to do so.
It is something that should be done much more in gaming. The feedback can be quite helpful in the long run not
just for the community but for the studio involved to make great strides.

 

[LAX]

No, it's not. Otherwise everyone will report the same item as 'missing'. And we don't make a random item drop less often just for you on individual basis as well.

I've told that before. Every time you successfully complete a collection on a daily basis (i.e. a regular one with no time constraints), you don't notice it. But you always notice when there's one item that's escaping you for some time.

Say, you've completed 50 collections of something and the rest of items you have looks like this: 13-0-15-9-10 Surely, we've messed up with second item, right? But you don't take into account the 50 collections you've completed already, so the real numbers are 63-50-65-59-60.

Obviously, "very seldom" definition falls within a certain range, and Age of Ash is insanely difficult. That's some change from previous special events that last two weeks, but are completed by our old time and most dedicated players (that's you and most others on the forum) in two days.

Future special events might be easy again, you never know!

I agree with most on the forum that we DO like new, challenging quests, and this definitely fits the bill. However, the drop rates for the CWC are just too few. That coupled with the extra fuel costs of the quest destinations really turned this exciting, new challenge into a disappointment. The animation with the volcano and city ash is all very well done and makes it a very visually pleasing game, but by making it almost impossible to complete really leaves an unhappy group of your core gamers.

 

[Ty Gigamon]

-another day of many flights and no drops, zero, nada, nothing...3 drops to 2 weeks with countless flights to CWC is freakin brutal.

 

[Droidhak]

The same is true with trying to complete the burnt tree collection. The side quest to complete the collection has been active for over a week for me and I have been one item short of completing this quest for just about that whole time. At this rate I don't know if I'll finish the side quests let alone the main event. I haven't had any buffs to help out.

Thanks for the reply, GI. It does help calm the storm here, usually. One tip for you: Many of us missed the explosion as it happened while we were offline. I would have liked to have seen it. Maybe show the animation when we individually log on?

 

[diwata]

Yea, I wanted to see the explosion. Maybe save it for the finale?

 

[Bali Hi]

Obviously, "very seldom" definition falls within a certain range, and Age of Ash is insanely difficult. That's some change from previous special events that last two weeks, but are completed by our old time and most dedicated players (that's you and most others on the forum) in two days.

Future special events might be easy again, you never know!

Hi Ivan,

Any tips for us before we all go insane??
5 days to go, with only 1 Cold War item (not even 1 collection) !

Something like "fly mainly to Bali & LA for the Cold War collection, cause this game is meant mostly for the new players. And oh, do use the Business Class for better drops?"

That was an example folks, not a real tip .

 

[SactoDave]

Hi Ivan,

Any tips for us before we all go insane??
5 days to go, with only 1 Cold War item (not even 1 collection) !

Something like "fly mainly to Bali & LA for the Cold War collection, cause this game is meant mostly for the new players. And oh, do use the Business Class for better drops?"

That was an example folks, not a real tip .

I just went 6 hours straight to LA and Lima with bonuses and a whole bunch of fuel and finished the CW collection. I had to force myself not to give up, it was pretty brutal.

 

[Blue Aero]

That's simply not true, damaged road sections are not affecting any of your buildings.

THAT is DEFINITELY not true - damaged roads DO affect the buildings and you cannot move or rotate the buildings --- you CAN, however, build a road UNDERNEATH the building. When the buildings are affected, they even show when you minimize all of the buildings. I have a support ticket on this and was told that GI was aware of the problem. As you can see from the time left on the age of ash event, this was 12 days ago and a support ticket was created immediately after the screen shots were taken. Restart of game and computer helped a little but not completely.

 

[Bali Hi]

I just went 6 hours straight to LA and Lima with bonuses and a whole bunch of fuel and finished the CW collection. I had to force myself not to give up, it was pretty brutal.

What bonuses did you deploy?