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There is more than enough information in this forum from experienced players like @Barkmi4 (Mike) and others on how to save fuel and passengers but people still want to say it’s not possible.

When I first started there was no way I could ever imagine doing some of the fuel and passenger numbers I have now but I read and took advice from guys who were around then. The best thing about this forum is that everyone is here to help, if people keep saying it’s not possible and doubting then what is the point of experienced players giving advice,

It takes lots of effort to progress in this game but there are ways to do it, all the advice is there.

I currently have 496 friends - Every day I get between 100 and 200 units of F20 gifts each day , sometimes more as I regularly delete those who don’t send and add new ones, I also do lots of rocket launches which produce items for collections which include fuel in F300, F150, F50 etc. I have 6 visa centres and almost every passenger producing building with lots of bonus buildings surrounding them. Put all this together and I can easily do 150K passengers a week minimum without breaking sweat, if I take it easy like when the heli event was on that fuel goes statight into the fuel bar and it grows. If I take it easy for a few weeks - maybe 59/69k passenger then the fuel bar grows even more. And all the time i am launching rockets of all colours and for any position as launch boxes contain fuel.

I can fully understand why it seems difficult and why people doubt some of the numbers quoted earlier in this thread but it’s been explained plenty of times by many people in this forum over the years. Passengers are easy to get, fuel is more difficult but there are ways, it just takes time to get into that position.

The most ironic thing about all this is that the people who do cheat don’t have thousands of units of fuel in the fuel bar - they have bots that run in the background or have hacks that give them unlimited greens, or hacks for high passenger numbers to get top positions in weekly tasks and they generally are very easy to pick out.
 

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Some players (without travelling between time zones) INTENTIONALLY take advantage of this loophole. I was also banned on this issue but I did not delve on finding out how this can be taken advantaged of.
Of course there are cheaters. Nobody is suggesting there aren't. But there are also players being accused of cheating who never do. Success in the game does not equal cheating.

I remember a recent thread where someone said it was impossible to fly 200k pax every weekly without cheating. The suggestion was that it could happen occasionally but certainly not weekly. Well ... I am flying 150k weekly (well 4 weeks in a row) without putting much effort into spreadsheets and calculations.

Bottom line, nobody is suggesting there aren't cheats. But every player that is more successful than others aren't cheats.
 
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There is more than enough information in this forum from experienced players like @Barkmi4 (Mike) and others on how to save fuel and passengers but people still want to say it’s not possible.

When I first started there was no way I could ever imagine doing some of the fuel and passenger numbers I have now but I read and took advice from guys who were around then. The best thing about this forum is that everyone is here to help, if people keep saying it’s not possible and doubting then what is the point of experienced players giving advice,

It takes lots of effort to progress in this game but there are ways to do it, all the advice is there.

I currently have 496 friends - Every day I get between 100 and 200 units of F20 gifts each day , sometimes more as I regularly delete those who don’t send and add new ones, I also do lots of rocket launches which produce items for collections which include fuel in F300, F150, F50 etc. I have 6 visa centres and almost every passenger producing building with lots of bonus buildings surrounding them. Put all this together and I can easily do 150K passengers a week minimum without breaking sweat, if I take it easy like when the heli event was on that fuel goes statight into the fuel bar and it grows. If I take it easy for a few weeks - maybe 59/69k passenger then the fuel bar grows even more. And all the time i am launching rockets of all colours and for any position as launch boxes contain fuel.

I can fully understand why it seems difficult and why people doubt some of the numbers quoted earlier in this thread but it’s been explained plenty of times by many people in this forum over the years. Passengers are easy to get, fuel is more difficult but there are ways, it just takes time to get into that position.

The most ironic thing about all this is that the people who do cheat don’t have thousands of units of fuel in the fuel bar - they have bots that run in the background or have hacks that give them unlimited greens, or hacks for high passenger numbers to get top positions in weekly tasks and they generally are very easy to pick out.
Ok. Let the forum members digest and weigh on what you have stated. But for me, the fuel stats is iffy to me after a member showed me his bonus chest inventories and his fuel bar status. I already said a lot of my pice in this forum. I sent a previous post asking for older players that do not have item caps. Is this true?
 

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Of course there are cheater. Nobody is suggesting there aren't. But there are also players being accused of cheating who never do. Success in the game does not equal cheating.

I remember a recent thread where someone said it was impossible to fly 200k pax every weekly without cheating. The suggestion was that it could happen occasionally but certainly not weekly. Well ... I am flying 150k weekly (well 4 weeks in a row) without putting much effort into spreadsheets and calculations.

Bottom line, nobody is suggesting there aren't cheats. But every player that is more successful than others aren't cheats.
Accumulating pax seems easy. But amassing big bulk of fuel, it is a big question mark for me.
 
Ok. Let the forum members digest and weigh on what you have stated. But for me, the fuel stats is iffy to me after a member showed me his bonus chest inventories and his fuel bar status. I already said a lot of my pice in this forum. I sent a previous post asking for older players that do not have item caps. Is this true?
No, older players who were around before the limit just have thousands in stock. Everyone has the 100 item limit but many of us have thousands and thousands of units in stick, you could also have more than 6 buildings so saving collection items was easier, there are players with thousands and thousands of saved item which will take years to use up.

As an example, I have 8000 plus flight catering , that is because before the limit I had 6 flight catering units all giving me 36 units a day for a long long time. I cannot collect anymore but I have them in stock. Before version 7 it was much easier to get space flight items as you could use golden dice to get better drops when visiting neighbours but GI changed how that bonus worked so now it’s much harder.

GI have screwed this game for anyone starting after V7, there is no way someone starting now can ever compete with older players. Look what they did with casino, bank and mint - they will probably never come back but they give greens , I have 2 mints from 4 years ago, I am never short on greens , it’s definitely not fair and the 100 item limit is a joke and V7 was a total disaster in my opinion but I like playing this game so I keep at it.



I do understand why you think the fuel numbers are strange but believe me it can be done honestly just keep trying.

I did read back on the comments , I think I am right that you said playing 2 hours a day is too much for you - I hope I read that correct. I have my iPad open all day, I must play stupid amounts of hours everyday and I have 5 other support games too - Do I spend too much time on this crazy game - yeah way too much time.


The best thing to remember is - it’s just a game and everyone plays differently. Some people spend money, that’s their choice - look at the mad rush this week for the new PS5, it’s now going for stupid money on eBay - £1000/$1500 etc. I’ve had gold subscription in the past but not anymore, GI are ruining this game with the shit programming and stupid ideas they come out with
 
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Accumulating pax seems easy. But amassing big bulk of fuel, it is a big question mark for me.
Do the math. If you do enough launches through the week and open enough mystery chests, you can store 100 each of 300 fuel, 150 fuel, 50 fuel and 20 fuel in the warehouse. Even without fuel gifts, that's 52,000 fuel units. You also produce fuel and can produce more with bonuses and can gain fuel by landing guest planes. And that doesn't include the gifts you can receive daily. So way beyond 52,000 fuel units. And maybe you took advantage of the fuel sale. And maybe you have a support account to get additional fuel.

It's not hard to get to massive amounts of fuel. But it does take effort.
 

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Ok. Let the forum members digest and weigh on what you have stated. But for me, the fuel stats is iffy to me after a member showed me his bonus chest inventories and his fuel bar status. I already said a lot of my pice in this forum. I sent a previous post asking for older players that do not have item caps. Is this true?
They do have item caps. They are capped at 100 just like everybody else. But if they had 5,792 of an item in inventory when the 100 cap came into play, they didn't get that inventory taken away.
 

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They do have item caps. They are capped at 100 just like everybody else. But if they had 5,792 of an item in inventory when the 100 cap came into play, they didn't get that inventory taken away.
So the other member who posted that older playersdirectly stated that they do not have caps is lying to his teeth. So how can I believe all he is posting on his stats?
 
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I wish there were some UI which shows what we can do with gift button, and which will helpful for beginners(lv10-30) get used to this game. It seems they quit this game pretty soon, for the reason I guess, they send gift something they need but there will be no return, so they found so any harsh things like everything too expensive and no way but only money. Most of advanced players like us need Fuel20 or some flights item. The beginners normally need some construction items like computers or server wreck, they even dont know that they can send 20 units of fuel to neighbor, and they dont know why people put the word F20 or SL FC something in thier name. so Gi should make some UI which tells what would neighbor want for a gift. so beginners would stay more time for playing around and find more exciting things in this game.
 

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I wish there were some UI which shows what we can do with gift button, and which will helpful for beginners(lv10-30) get used to this game. It seems they quit this game pretty soon, for the reason I guess, they send gift something they need but there will be no return, so they found so any harsh things like everything too expensive and no way but only money. Most of advanced players like us need Fuel20 or some flights item. The beginners normally need some construction items like computers or server wreck, they even dont know that they can send 20 units of fuel to neighbor, and they dont know why people put the word F20 or SL FC something in thier name. so Gi should make some UI which tells what would neighbor want for a gift. so beginners would stay more time for playing around and find more exciting things in this game.
Good point..
 

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No, older players who were around before the limit just have thousands in stock. Everyone has the 100 item limit but many of us have thousands and thousands of units in stick, you could also have more than 6 buildings so saving collection items was easier, there are players with thousands and thousands of saved item which will take years to use up.

As an example, I have 8000 plus flight catering , that is because before the limit I had 6 flight catering units all giving me 36 units a day for a long long time. I cannot collect anymore but I have them in stock. Before version 7 it was much easier to get space flight items as you could use golden dice to get better drops when visiting neighbours but GI changed how that bonus worked so now it’s much harder.

GI have screwed this game for anyone starting after V7, there is no way someone starting now can ever compete with older players. Look what they did with casino, bank and mint - they will probably never come back but they give greens , I have 2 mints from 4 years ago, I am never short on greens , it’s definitely not fair and the 100 item limit is a joke and V7 was a total disaster in my opinion but I like playing this game so I keep at it.



I do understand why you think the fuel numbers are strange but believe me it can be done honestly just keep trying.

I did read back on the comments , I think I am right that you said playing 2 hours a day is too much for you - I hope I read that correct. I have my iPad open all day, I must play stupid amounts of hours everyday and I have 5 other support games too - Do I spend too much time on this crazy game - yeah way too much time.


The best thing to remember is - it’s just a game and everyone plays differently. Some people spend money, that’s their choice - look at the mad rush this week for the new PS5, it’s now going for stupid money on eBay - £1000/$1500 etc. I’ve had gold subscription in the past but not anymore, GI are ruining this game with the shit programming and stupid ideas they come out with
Well said. Old players might have a lot of inventories that they can dispense with and I am ok with that. But for players who post stats and baring their inventories ( bonuses and chests both current and accumulated) that are almost the same level as mine but have an atrocious fuel amount in their bars begs a lot of questions to begin with.
 

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Do the math. If you do enough launches through the week and open enough mystery chests, you can store 100 each of 300 fuel, 150 fuel, 50 fuel and 20 fuel in the warehouse. Even without fuel gifts, that's 52,000 fuel units. You also produce fuel and can produce more with bonuses and can gain fuel by landing guest planes. And that doesn't include the gifts you can receive daily. So way beyond 52,000 fuel units. And maybe you took advantage of the fuel sale. And maybe you have a support account to get additional fuel.

It's not hard to get to massive amounts of fuel. But it does take effort.
Let's look at it this way... ok you have the 52,000 in your bar plus daily gifts. How long can you replenish your inventory again in the 52,000 level while slowly spending the current one in your daily flights? Will you not spend fuel for flights to get those launch ready items or anything that would give you bonuses? Landing guest planes? That is measly amount and I am also doing these. Produce fuel? .... you cannot if you are already capped in your fuel bar. I did the math and it is soooo short. With my planes, I am dipping mostly on my fuel inventory (300/150/50) and consume all my gifts on a daily basis plus fuel production plus landing planes plus opening some of my bonuses ( space conqueror, master of the universe, etc and got lots of them - 9 different chests at about 50 items each) and still am in break-even or even on deficit on events. I could reach 50,000 fuel level and dispense them all but to what extent? I will again have to spend these fuel to get these bonus items to their level ad infinitum.
 
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Any idea when GI will fix the video issue on Windows? I see its working on other platforms, but on Windows it just says loading but never really allows to play videos
 
Let's look at it this way... ok you have the 52,000 in your bar plus daily gifts. How long can you replenish your inventory again in the 52,000 level while slowly spending the current one in your daily flights? Will you not spend fuel for flights to get those launch ready items or anything that would give you bonuses? Landing guest planes? That is measly amount and I am also doing these. Produce fuel? .... you cannot if you are already capped in your fuel bar. I did the math and it is soooo short. With my planes, I am dipping mostly on my fuel inventory (300/150/50) and consume all my gifts on a daily basis plus fuel production plus landing planes plus opening some of my bonuses ( space conqueror, master of the universe, etc and got lots of them - 9 different chests at about 50 items each) and still am in break-even or even on deficit on events. I could reach 50,000 fuel level and dispense them all but to what extent? I will again have to spend these fuel to get these bonus items to their level ad infinitum.
I’ve read through this post from the start. There is nothing dubious about @Barkmi4 (Mike)s game, or @Ddave1 s figures. I’ve been playing 3.7 years and started without the 100 limit. You just collected and collected. I don’t have a mountain of items left but still have enough to flying without scrambling for flight items. Saving on the fuel bar or using fuel as it’s produced are personal choices. When I run big planes, yes fuel runs out quicker but my fuel bar still climbs continuously. I blow out 35k fuel every 2 weeks on a map run of some kind but could easily do more. There’s absolutely zero cheating going on in saving. I would say that if you can’t get fuel saving on your fuel bar and have to dip into the warehouse you have more a problem of fleet management. Flying beyond your means means you will use up resources.
 
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I find your response really disappointing. Myself and others have spent the time providing tips, these are generally aligned with one another. Yet rather than take on board that you can save in this manner, you’re calling it dubious.
So in the interests of transparency, what I have currently is below. Oh, and also the resources I had when I did 1M +
All the chest info is in the wiki. Look it up, work it out how much fuel I have, or continue to call it dubious.

As I’ve said, when you’ve been playing a long time your goals change. And what at first seems impossible, becomes inevitable if you do it enough times.
Its not dubious, it’s not uncommon, it’s just people that have been playing longer than yourself and adopt a different strategy.View attachment 44761View attachment 44752View attachment 44753View attachment 44754View attachment 44755View attachment 44756View attachment 44757View attachment 44758View attachment 44759View attachment 44760

Don't have the time to calculate your inventory but you seem to have a long way to go till hundreds of thousands of fuel which was the point of my post (and not flagging you or someone else).
I'm sure those numbers cannot be achieved regularly by saving for years and other stuff you've said.
Your and other people contributions are appreciated and respected but we're not talking about normal use of the game unless you can share some non-exploitative way of building egregious amount of fuel every week/month other than farms of gifters. Gold farmers are a thing in all games so do gifts farmers in this game.
 

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I’ve read through this post from the start. There is nothing dubious about @Barkmi4 (Mike)s game, or @Ddave1 s figures. I’ve been playing 3.7 years and started without the 100 limit. You just collected and collected. I don’t have a mountain of items left but still have enough to flying without scrambling for flight items. Saving on the fuel bar or using fuel as it’s produced are personal choices. When I run big planes, yes fuel runs out quicker but my fuel bar still climbs continuously. I blow out 35k fuel every 2 weeks on a map run of some kind but could easily do more. There’s absolutely zero cheating going on in saving. I would say that if you can’t get fuel saving on your fuel bar and have to dip into the warehouse you have more a problem of fleet management. Flying beyond your means means you will use up resources.
Ok. So what are the best fleet management strategies?
 
Ok. So what are the best fleet management strategies?
Depends what your objectives are
Depends on alliance requirements, if any
Depends on the number of pax you can easily generate
Depends if you have reserve hangar and at what level
Depends if you map hunt and fly maps of all colours
Are you a star chaser. I’m guessing not.
Do you have loads of coins so can buy and sell planes without getting upset!

Comes back to - it depends what your objectives are.
There is no one stop answer.

From what you’ve said you like pushing for event places. That’s a wide mix of planes
Star chasers tend to be more logical and fly maybe 3 types of plane at once not more. But could always have a load in the warehouse or reserve hangar.
Quite honestly there is a mountain of information on this forum about fleet management and strategy.
 
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