General Building Cost vrs Efficiency

[Navigata07]

@bluejay

 

[Blue Jay]

@bluejay I havent posted in the launch forum yet...need to gather more resources. I have a few powerful explosive bolts, but I hold on to those for dear life lol. I'm gonna focus on adding some new neighbors first, then gather resources

Feel free to add me also i launch almost daily and in about a week or two wil be getting me first batch of QL's

 

[Navigata07]

Feel free to add me also i launch almost daily and in about a week or two wil be getting me first batch of QL's

Oh nice...will do. Thanks man...so much info in a short amount of time

 

[Jega001]

But with so many solid rocket fuel at my disposal, I now have a way to get rid of them.

You will never get rid of them.

And I'm in the group that hijacked people here when I was new. I didn't understand the rules but I'm getting the hang of how this works now. Thankfully someone very nice finally pointed out my mistake and I apologized. My recommendation would be once you build up a good base of nice neighbors who have Planetariums and have the resources to finish a red launch on your own if things go south look in the space launch section for some people doing launches and join with them or even post your own thread. There are a lot of nice people here always willing to help you out!

 

[FlyingFalcon]

@bluejay

No, it wasn't him - although @Blue Jay is also a great guy and good buddy - even if he is a bit green with jealousy at the moment.

 

[Navigata07]

No, it wasn't him - although @Blue Jay is also a great guy and good buddy - even if he is a bit green with jealousy at the moment.

No it was a mistake lol. I meant to tag him in a message but deleted it by accident

 

[Navigata07]

You will never get rid of them.

And I'm in the group that hijacked people here when I was new. I didn't understand the rules but I'm getting the hang of how this works now. Thankfully someone very nice finally pointed out my mistake and I apologized. My recommendation would be once you build up a good base of nice neighbors who have Planetariums and have the resources to finish a red launch on your own if things go south look in the space launch section for some people doing launches and join with them or even post your own thread. There are a lot of nice people here always willing to help you out!

By the way, what's the usual etiquette when it comes to group launches? Know we're getting a bit off topic, but it's still relevant since launches are the main money makers

 

[Blue Jay]

If somebody posts 'all places open' then its a free for all and no positions are reserved. If somebody posts 2-3 open then that means first is reserved and you should not pass the person who has reserved first place. Sometimes if somebody posts 576 then it is unusual to pass them again unless all posts available has been stated. It is best if you can get in a launch group then you can communicate properly with your fellow fliers. I may well be corrected on a couple of points but this is what i usually watch for especially if randomly joining a fellow forum member launch. If i do this i usually message them and ask what they are looking for people to put in if they haven't posted the launch on the forum.

 

[Davescharf]

If somebody posts 'all places open' then its a free for all and no positions are reserved. If somebody posts 2-3 open then that means first is reserved and you should not pass the person who has reserved first place. Sometimes if somebody posts 576 then it is unusual to pass them again unless all posts available has been stated. It is best if you can get in a launch group then you can communicate properly with your fellow fliers. I may well be corrected on a couple of points but this is what i usually watch for especially if randomly joining a fellow forum member launch. If i do this i usually message them and ask what they are looking for people to put in if they haven't posted the launch on the forum.

You forgot to add that anytime some flies with me first time there seems to be an unwritten rule that I get hijacked

 

[Navigata07]

I got all of that except the 576 rule

 

[Jega001]

The 576 rule is you put in one of each item and it adds up to 576. That is usually considered to be first. I was completely unaware of that one before coming here as well. One other extremely important rule, if you are in a launch where multiple QL's are participating, never ever launch before all QL's get on-board.

 

[Navigata07]

Oh ok I got you. So only the person in first place does that, and everyone else keep their score below that? Or is it something each participant does?

 

[FlyingFalcon]

The 576 rule is you put in one of each item and it adds up to 576. That is usually considered to be first. I was completely unaware of that one before coming here as well. One other extremely important rule, if you are in a launch where multiple QL's are participating, never ever launch before all QL's get on-board.

Ok, now i have a question, what are the rules of launch etiquette when someone sets up a launch and puts in 576 but then doesn't keep adding for several hours. I've been stuck in those launch situations and haven't known what to do. It's hard to launch a red rocket even with three or four people if everyone has to stay under 576.

 

[Navigata07]

...unless the launch has that many participants where adding up to 576 isn't needed. I wonder the same thing. What if the leader gets caught up in something and can't complete the launch?

 

[Navigata07]

Feel free to add me also i launch almost daily and in about a week or two wil be getting me first batch of QL's

Do you usually post in Area 51? Wherever you post your daily launches, tag me. I'll help where I can. Thanks again.

 

[Jega001]

Well...The 576 rule usually only happens with QL's. Now it's always up to the person setting up the launch sets what the rules are. With QL's if you're sitting around for hours you're doing it wrong. In my experiences it goes like this. As people join a launch the person who's turn it is to be first or the first person to put 576 in claims first. Everyone else stays behind that, until all the people who are trying to get in the launch get in or at least until the OL's get in. Then the person who claimed first usually puts in ~1000. Spots 2-3 put in about 500. If the combination with everyone else isn't enough to get off the pad it's usually the person who put in 1st will try to get the launch off the ground usually with some assistance everyone else. Remember with QL's once they are all in the launch the faster you get off the ground, the faster you get back, the faster you get off the ground again.

Without QL's 1st usually puts in about 1700 to keep anyone else from claiming first.

 

[Phyllo]

This is not much help but I'm still at the stage where every bit counts and as we say in German "Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt, ist des Talers nicht wert." - something like "Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves." or literally translated "He who doesn't value the penny doesn't deserve the pound."
If you have a 2*2 spot free in your city and collected the chess table often enough, you can build a chess club and when it is completed after 4 hours, you can delete it again and earn 130 which is actually more than the 90 you'd earn with it every 4 hours. I have a pile of them collecting dust in my storage and this way, I can at least make use of them once.
If you have other buildings in your storage that you don't want to use, you can do the same with them. I've actually first sold a smart house to make room for the chess club since I also have a pile of smart houses sitting in my storage and I currently don't need all the passenger producing builings I have to keep my planes in the air all the time.

 

[Navigata07]

This is not much help but I'm still at the stage where every bit counts and as we say in German "Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt, ist des Talers nicht wert." - something like "Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves." or literally translated "He who doesn't value the penny doesn't deserve the pound."
If you have a 2*2 spot free in your city and collected the chess table often enough, you can build a chess club and when it is completed after 4 hours, you can delete it again and earn 130 which is actually more than the 90 you'd earn with it every 4 hours. I have a pile of them collecting dust in my storage and this way, I can at least make use of them once.
If you have other buildings in your storage that you don't want to use, you can do the same with them. I've actually first sold a smart house to make room for the chess club since I also have a pile of smart houses sitting in my storage and I currently don't need all the passenger producing builings I have to keep my planes in the air all the time.

That's not a bad idea if you have buildings that you want to get rid of. I tend to hold on to all buildings I get; you never know when they can come in handy. And though the building contributions are small, they certainly add up. I used to go for variety, but now I only put coin buildings that have the highest per hour rate. I've found that buildings that give an average of 40 per hour or more are considered worthy investments from a coin building standpoint...if they don't cost an arm and a leg to obtain.

 

[Phyllo]

That's not a bad idea if you have buildings that you want to get rid of. I tend to hold on to all buildings I get; you never know when they can come in handy.

I doubt they'll allow more than 6 of any kind apart from planetariums and such, so keeping 6 of each should be sufficient.

And though the building contributions are small, they certainly add up. I used to go for variety, but now I only put coin buildings that have the highest per hour rate. I've found that buildings that give an average of 40 per hour or more are considered worthy investments from a coin building standpoint...if they don't cost an arm and a leg to obtain.

With the average per hour, you should keep in mind the space they require. E.g. the bowling earns me 59 per hour but takes 2*2 fields while the pharmacy "only" earns 19 per hour - but on just one field.

 

[Navigata07]

Correct. I don't mind the 2x2 sacrifice if it's worth it, but yes you can work out some fancy math to get higher totals per hour