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So true, Bali Hi!! But what if,   er....... 'someone' just kinda did this to a well-known member (let's say someone like [USER=383]rodyw[/USER]), to his very own shock (cause math has never been his thing anyway). And let's say this 'someone' doesn't feel that that's right  . How, would you say, should this 'someone' make up with him?